JPouch
This is where I am now. I feel much better and I am getting able to eat more and more foods over time. I still go to the bathroom about 5 times a day (usually once during the night too).![]() Me and my Me in November 2009 at Alum Rock |
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Level of scarring 5 years later, not bad at all |
Graphic ImagesHere are some graphic images for the curious, not for the faint of heartIleostomy surgery attachments Surgeon removing my colon Laproscopic surgery with colon removed My diseased colon open for inspection |
Supplements
- Juicing - I can get almost all of the fruits and vegetables I can't normally have including Orange Juice by juicing them!
- Greens First - I take this to replace not being able to eat many vegetables
- VSL #3 - this stuff is just generally good to take
- Marijuana (where legal) - In California, UC is a valid diagnosis to obtain a medical marijuana card.
- Fish Oil
- B vitamins - these are normally absorbed in the large intestine so we need more of them
- Potassium - same as B vitamins, that's why I eat a lot of bananas
Drugs
- Calmoseptine - I use this when things get irritated down there.
- Bottoms Up Balm - I also use this when it gets irritated down there (make sure the area is clean before applying).
Notes
- Get a detachable shower head so that you can keep the area down there clean. Having diarrhea will irritate the area over time if it's not kept clean. If you don't have a detachable shower head you can wet some toilet paper in the sink and use that to clean it or use a washcloth.
- Drinking a lot of water without eating anything to absorb it can cause problems: it will just go right through you and will actually take more water to process it through the intestines thus dehydrating you. That being said, do not drink water at night. It will likely go right through you and make you shit your pants without you even knowing until you wake up :(
- If you go to sleep drunk, you can expect to leak in your underwear overnight so be prepared
- It's much easier to become dehydrated with a J-pouch, make sure to get enough water in the day. When drinking water, make sure you eat something to absorb it (like bread) so it doesn't pass through you.
- Watch out for developing pouchitis; it can creep up out of nowhere. You may experience more frequency, blood, irritation and occasionally more urgency. In this case make sure you relax and destress and stick to a diet you know works.
- Make sure to get enough potassium and sodium (normally processed in the large intestine). I eat a lot of bananas to get the potassium.
- I am still unable to flatulate without creating a mess; most cases where I have to go to the bathroom are because I just have to fart. In the past 5 years I have been able to fart successfully only 3 times.
- Occasionally the rectum starts itching when I have to go to the bathroom (After 3 years this stopped)
- I try not to eat anything right before bed or I end up waking up every few hours during the night to go to the bathroom
- In chinese medicine, the large intestine is linked to the lungs so watch out for lung problems down the line. I developed a chronic cough 3 years after the surgery which came and went over time. It has subsided as of 2010.
- Be careful when taking cough syrup with codeine (promethazine) in it during bedtime; the codeine may relax your intestines (and put you out) to the point of you shitting yourself in the middle of the night.
- If you leak and don't have access to a washing machine/dryer (like at a hotel) you can wash your underwear out in a sink and use a blow dryer to dry it
- Working out (whether you do cardio or weight building doesn't matter) is great for stress relief and general overall health, I recommend it. I always say the hardest part about working out is getting to the gym.
- Eating a lot of protein will make your bowl movements very smelly. When working out, many protein mixes will not agree with you, I use TrueProtein's website to make custom protein mixes I can handle. My mix is 70% Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration, 20% Micellar Casein (Instantized), 10% Branch Chain Amino Acids INSTANTIZED (BCAA's)
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denise
"That being said, do not drink water at night." water never made me go to toilet. If you drink tomato juice then yes.
Iam going to toilet 3-6 times a day. I sleep all night without going to toilet.
One thing that disturbs me especially about your case however is that you are experiencing nausea. I never experience nausea as a symptom of pouchitis. My symptoms are usually <b>urgency, pain, loosing weight and occasionally blood</b>. I did experience nausea though when I had a <b>stomach ulcer</b> (the doctors insisted at the time that I had Chrons but I pressed them to look again and they eventually found a duodenal ulcer instead). Have you been tested for that?
I know diet and stress were the biggest factors of my disease, changing these has made me feel the healthiest I ever have. October 22nd 2009.
PRE SURGERY:
16 yr old girl formally diagnosed with UC in 2001. I had loose runny stools, flatulance, bleeding, cramping, 4 hospitialisations, cortisone, sulfa medications, worked 50-60 hours a week, poor love relationship, poor diet (microwave dinners, take out, Macdonalds, lots of white bread and milk with prepackaged cereals + tonnes of sugary snacks) and regular marajuhana use.
In 2003 I was hospitialised.
Option 1. Begin Imuran (an immunosuppresent medication given to organ transplant patients) or
Option 2. Total colectomy.
I opted for the Imuran - no effect, I was too sick by this time.
My parents (mother's side has family history) convinced me to have a J pouch constructed.
4 Surgeries over the next 2 years with temp. colostomy bag, I experienced 1 blockage due to adheasions (which I feel was from the low fibre diet the Dr's prescribed me).
After the blockage and research into fibre discovering why it is important part of a healthy functioning digestive tract, I began to take my health seriously.
Ate vegetables (cauliflower, brocolli, cabbage, carrot, water chestnut, red capsicum - but not green) in the form of stirfrys, chewing each mouthful 30-40 times (as colon's don't have teeth).
Removed all dairy and gluten products.
Onions were out for me as well due to the gas production.
I had massive improvement in the consistancy of my stools, my stoma did swell at times and get bruised as the size hole I had cut that morning was sometimes too close fitting.
POST SURGERY:
Reversal complete in Oct 2005 and I have continued becoming the healthiest happiest person I can. I never smoke marajuhana, drink alcohol, coffee, eat processed sugar or pre packaged meals or take medications. I am in a loving relationship now and work part-time (25hrs a week).
I eat most of my vegetables raw or lightly steamed, take phytonutrients, mineral and vitamin supplements, drink 2-3L of filtered water a day (not including herbal tea), eat plenty of fresh fruit, small amounts of nuts, seeds and legumes everyday with no problems. I do eat grains now but only organic whole grains and not more than 3 x week. Eggs are fine (smelly gas but no cramping) as is raw milk (organic unpasturised and non-homogonised) and organic goat's cheese occasionally but no more than 3x week.
BIGGEST CHANGE:
Best aid for thickening my stool, decreasing frequency and passing gas without having to sit on the toilet was Psyillum Husk (take 2 x day). I recently began adding Slippery Elm powder as my Naturopath advised it is more gentle and promotes mucous along the digestive lining without being as abrasive as Psyillum Husks and probiotics.
I hope you all find a diet that works for you, going organic, becoming educated about health and food, ignoring the Dr and eliminating stress was the best thing I did for myself.
ibdcrohns.about.com/od/pelvicpouch/f/pouchitis.htm
I haven't accessed a chat/help site for years. My ostomy takedown and correction was completed ...a long time ago..in 1994.
So I have a bit of history...the whole procedure at the time was a bit complicated maybe because the initial surgeon attempted to do it all in one stage....his first kick-at-the-cat...and I was in more agony before than previously.....after finding an alternate surgeon (because the first one told me I should just have a permanent ileostomy and get used to it), I had corrective surgery (the second surgeon's thinking was the pouch was initially placed too high in my abdomen) and recovered to have some degree of success...On good days(24 hr period) I still need to visit the washroom as many as 10 times daily...most vists occur at night...for some reason...being horizontol and no activity..my pouch is ineffecive....I don't think I've slept more than 4 hours consecutevly in 15 years.....and this is with the assistance of a high dosage of coedine contin which moderates the bowel/pouch function....to be honest...I probably early on became dependent on this drug when I was having more problems....that said....I was given a new lease on life after all the surgical errors were sorted out.....I returned to work as a carpenter and although over the years there have been many inconveniences (maybe too many for some) I have been able to succeed at a highly physical occupation...in conditions that may have been considered unusual to most...for the larger balance of my life I've worked in the Canadian Arctic...in severe conditions...for extensive periods...as many as 12 hours per day.....I've just returned from a 6 month contract at the Kandahar Airfield in Afghanastan working in 55 degree celsius....that's over 120 in Farenheit measure......and was able to overcome electrolyte depletion on a regular basis........so why am I writing??????....from the beginning I've had episodes which were extremely uncomfortable....after eating mushrooms.....I knew that they were somewhat of a problem prior to the jpouch....while I had the ileostomy when I ate mushrooms I could literally feel them pop out whole (to whatever size I had chewed them to) out of my abdomen into my appliance....so when I had the first occurence after the arrival of the jpouch...no big stretch to what it was....I was careless and at that time it was agonizing....I didn't think I would survive and was 10 seconds from calling the ambulance before everything cut loose...an obvious major blockage...later I had other occurences...most not as bad....you might say, "well, doesn't he ever learn?"....but most of the time I knew what I was getting into and either was prepared to pay for it....such as eating tomatoes....and/or onion laced foods....and other times I would try to mitigate the future events...for example...chewing my mushrooms well.....but in the last year or so I've had a few episodes I feel are connected to mushrooms.....I have the sensation of an almost complete blockage without the accompanying extreme pain.....but I begin to manufacture progressively more watery stools with greater frequency coupled with intense constipation and manufacture of gas.....I obviously need to expel this gas through as sit down and a loud farting musical (out of tune) anouncement...in conjunction with the watery defecation......as well I burp continuously with the taste of rotten eggs in my mouth although I haven't eaten any......all very uncomfortable......and this will usually last a week or so....
I'm not sure what is going on but I think that either I have a mushroom blockage that produces a major amount of gas as it rots away....or I am just developing some sort of alergy to mushrooms....and not all mushroom species, because at times I will eat other mushrooms in soup or whatever with no ill effects........so given that this is my first visit to any help site in years, I don't know if I can expect to find the most knowledgable contributor to respond but I'll keep my fingers crossed and at the same time I watch, I will help anyone else I can......as bad as this all might sound....I am grateful I survived a very virulent disease..and have lived already another 18 years....I am happily married with a beautiful 14 year old daughter....still any improvement on what has been the problem the last year would be great....thanks so much for your responses.....this is the best site I've seen towards j pouch interraction......all the best....
I'm not sure what's going on with the mushroom breath but mushrooms are usually poorly tolerated with jpouch people but I've never heard of them causing gas. Are you eating anything else with the mushrooms or always cooking them a certain way with certain seasonings/oils? You may also have an allergy to that species of mushroom, it's not unheard of.
Thanks for the compliment about the site.
- Will
these are the ones I believe to be at least one of those types which could give me problems....there may be others....and the most normal reason for my episodes would probably be a result of swallowing them at too large a stage when they might be contained in a soup/sauce/casserole.....I would like to say that I'm a diligent chewer but I'm not, and while when I am eating them as I side dish I would more likely be careful....I probably blow it when they are contained in a recipe...
but I do know as mentioned before, my body just does not break them down..as above, when I was connected to my appliance between procedure....I could feel the results (collecting as little chunks of rubber)by kneading my appliance.......I just wish to correct my chewing inattention there existed some way to flush or dissolve the mushroom chunk which causes my blockage...but more than likely I just have to suck it up and wait until it comes loose or rots away.......so thanks again for your site and allowing me to use the space to ramble on......
i have had j pouch for 15 years. I dont stick to the diet like i should but try. I have been taking 6 lomotil tablets per day. Also taking a tablespoon of fiber laxative mixed with water for regularity 3 times per day. Wondering why noone else on here is doing the same.
Thanks for starting this awesome web site.
as I was having problem going to the bathroom and I started vomiting. As going to the emergency is so hard, your scared, your sick and you don't know what to expect. I had to wait 6 hours before I could see the doctor. I prayed and prayed that I'd start feeling better and I ended up going to the bathroom and finally was able to go. I think that by eating peanuts the night before caused this problem. Some of the peanuts had the skin on them. What I was wondering is when you have these bouts with pouchidest do you have a very sore area where your pouch is? It isn't a pain it just feels sore. Even though this happens I am glad I did have the J-pouch surgery. I do everything I did before. I try to stay positive and keep myself busy even if I do feel tried. I know this disease can be very draining. So thank you everyone for sharing.
I go 3-4 times a day to the bathroom and sleep through the night.
I eat everything and haven't had any problems with food.
I also have FAP (my father and grandfather had it as well). I had a single state protocolectomy/j-pouch construction and attachment in early April 2010 at the age of 23. After experiencing interesting symptoms and knowing about my family history, I went to see a gastroenterologist. During my colonoscopy, he discovered hundreds of polyps and decided that a surgery within the next few months was crucial. The biopsies of polyps taken were not cancerous yet, however, the doctor revealed that we had no idea of knowing when a turn for the worst could occur. Before my surgery date was finalized my surgeon had me complete an upper endoscopy and abdominal CT scan. My upper endoscopy revealed that I do have polyps in stomach (none in my small intestine though). I will continue to be screened every 2-3 years. My doctor informed me that it is very common for individuals with FAP to have polyps in the stomach and they are usually not a problem. Mine were not the cancerous type. I gathered from him, however, that polyps in duodenal area of the small intestine (if they are adenomatous type) are more serious. You mentioned that your son has Gardner's - how was he diagnosed? Every since my surgery, although I'm feeling pretty good, I have an ongoing fear that I may have Gardner's (I'm can be paranoid). I would really appreciate if you could provide more information about your son.
Comments are from May 2010 - feel free to email me at jennifer3186@gmail.com if you'd like to chat.
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i know you all say that different foods work for different people, but there must be some staple foods that work for everyone?
at the moment, i find chips make firm passing. a Macdonals meal works a treat haha!
i dont mind living with my illeostmy but have been recommend the J pouch, over staying as i am now. im 18, in the middle of crucial years of college, and looking to go to uni next september. i reli hope someone can shed some light on how to live with a J pouch from day 1.
thank you so much. im quite nervous about the whole thing.
claudehoarau@hotmail.co.uk
Thank you!
thanks
@Ann, for comparison I usually go twice during the night. When I got pouchitis or when I ate something bad it was a lot more. Are you keeping tabs of what you eat to see what could be causing the problem? Also sometimes when you have pouchitis you don't feel anything, you'll just go to the bathroom a lot and have more urgency so that's something to check into also.
Thanks again!
I have had my j pouch for almost 18 years and I find that I have to eat early like at 5:00 p.m. And than helps with the bathroom visits at night. The most I go at night is one to two times. A few things I try not to eat at night is ice cream, and chocolate. Eating late at night is not good for me. I don't take any imodium at all. I do eat a lot of fiber. When I first had my pouch I used over the counter imodium I ended up in the ER as it stopped my pouch from working so I guess everyone is different but, you need to be careful of taking things. I know I get pouchidest and I just wait it out. My simpston are going to the bathroom a lot with a little cramping. It usually passes in a few days. I know it can be annoying, however, this disease as made me have patients and keep a positive attitude. Hope this is some help to you.
I have just started seeing a naturopath. She started me on vitamin B-12 injections, which have helped my eneregy. I was basically disabled for the last 6 years. I would sleep for more than 12 hours and still be exhausted.
Keep the faith everyone!
I've had a jpouch since 2002, can't believe it's been so long! I'm up now because of food blockage, and finally after a few hours it is passing. the main culprit for me was almost certainly short-cooked mushrooms and spinach stem fibre. usually if i'm a bit dehydrated or have been drinking alcohol i am more susceptible to pouch irritation and blockage.
an interesting point for everyone to consider about diet is bloodtype dieting. i think it's well worth looking into considering our dietry restrictions. eating foods that don't conform to your bloodtype can have very volatile effects, such as passing rapidly through your system. for me, type O (something) pork for example is a bad meat to eat. this has always been the case, as has been with orange juice, literally poisonous to type O bloodstream.
Well, I don't have all the facts but there's lots of info around and good books with recipes.
Good health!
Firstly can i just say what a great site... I developed Uc in 2002 a few months before my daughter was born, i had howver always suffered alot from tummy cramps following a meal & low energy levels but no other symptoms until i was 7 months pregnant.. & then Uc hit me lit a cricket bat.
When my daughter was just 10 days old i was diagnosed with acute Uc affecting the whole of my colon and retum, resulting in a concoction of medication , long and short i was ref quite early on to my surgeon but i put surgery off for a further 18 months! basicaly until i got to the stage that tying a shoe lace exhausted me and my husband frequently had to hold me on the toilet because the pain and bleeding was so bad. I had a two stage proceedure concluding in my J-pouch!
I followed what seems to be a common path for the first year or so, simply trying to ajust to my new plumbing however in comparrison to the Uc and worse the ileostomy i felt blessed.
it has been 6 years now, i go through various stages, have suffered several bouts of night time leakage, whih usualy wakes me as does the urge to visit the loo( of which i am a passionate loo visiter and toilet paper extrodinare) I know if i indulge in eating whatever takes my fancy regardless of quantity and time of day that i will pay the price.. for example, my moms cooked sunday roast.. a late night curry followed by pudding etc.. that i will without doubt run the risk of night visits to the loo and worse case some leakage.. all of which providing i am alone and at home i can manage because i have only me to worry about.. but having found myslef single again a few years ago i have found dating a real issue... so i then find if i do not eat say past 3 or 4pm.. i can usualy get away without going to the loo until the next day... but thsi is obviously not very healthy to do long term, but for the odd night workd a treat and really does relieve any embarresment from a noisy and smelly treat for any companion!
red meat and any meal that looks rich has alarm bells ringing for me as does most of the foods on Will's 'to avoid list'.
My bum does get sore when i have had increased Bm;s and i use SUDERCREM ( not sure if thats how it is spelt) this is a barries creame and instantly relievs any soreness and itching. Other than that i do not take any other meds at all. I wouldnt change having this pouch for anything other than post illness... it has saved my life and im blessed it has worked as well as it has with only a few incidents of pouchitis.
I know when i am suffering why i am suffering, i may not be able to say exactly what food has caused it but usualy it is eating way too much for the piouch to cope with... and included foods of the not to do list somwher along the line. I just really wished i could find a cure to stop the BM's being so noisy... if it wasnt for that i could cope with going in the night and several times aday... i have no problenm people knowing i need the loo.. i just dont want them to hear or smell me.. haha!!
Keep doing the pelvic floor excersizes both men and women.. it is vital to the continence especialy for us in later life!...
Please write or caht back if you have any more tips to share.. my faves list is as below...
No late night food
No food if needing a toilet free evening ( drinks proven ok )
baby wipes ( a must! to be fresh)
Barrier creme
Flushing when exploding ( to minimise sound )
telling people openly of your condition ( eliminate questions as to WHY you are always on the loo )
being greatfull to J-pouch surgeons and not angry with your body
realise i am not alone
Much love and ultimate respect to all of you reading this..
24/10/10... & hoping to still be positive when im 90.. see you here x
However, I have recently had an abscess and fistula and had to have 3 operations to try to get it to heal. I have also had dilatation at the connection of my pouch.
I am now experiencing accidents. I do not get any warning that i need to go and i do not have time to get to a loo. I am concerned regarding returning to work as i do not get any warning that this is going to happen. I can go some days where I am fine and do not have any accidents and then, like today, i have had 4.
I was wondering if anyone can give me any tips or advise, or if anyone else has had dilatation or fistula surgery and if this has caused any further problems.
I am wondering if i should consider having my pouch redone or returning to a permanent bag. Has anyone else had their pouch redone for similar reasons and did it make any difference? Do you think that because i don't have accidents all the time that this could be due to diet? or is is possibly pouchitis? (although when the consultant did the dilatation and EUA last week he said it looked fine).
Also do people find that their pouch plays up after eating certain foods straight away or does it sometimes effect them the day after? I have only had toast with ham and cheese for lunch and then lamb chops for tea, although i did have a curry last night, although i slept right through the night afterwards!
Thanks for your help, good luck everyone x
Hi Jo, Although i can offer no real solution as i sometimes dispair with my bum, i can go for weeks and weeks with no real issues and then as you say eat terribly or the wron foods and sleep ok with no leakage, however just the other night i hardley ate a single thing, yet woke in the night having had a bit of leakage... and to be honest i am always on my guard with it which is stressfull in itself isnt it!
So i am of the mind to think that sometimes the pouch or the opening must get inflammed and this causes weakness to the sphinkter muscle resulting in loss of control when asleep epecialy, and sadly not something we can prepare for unless we simply dont eat!
However i have been fortunate not to have experienced an accident post surgery during waking hours, i do get the feeling when the puch is full or im crampy and enough time to get to the loo, there have been a number of occasions when i have left it to the point where i have had a few lucky escapes though ;)
I had to have to puch stretched a year or so after i had ,had it but no other surgical intervention since then, a few episodes of pouchitis, which presents itself as tummy ache and general nuisance around increased visits, more urgency and soreness but ironically also at this time finding it difficult to empty the pouch comfortably resulting in going back and forth the loo several times in no time at all just to feel some relief.. is this what you are experiencing??
Antibiotics soon sort this out though...
Diet and quantity of food definatly for me impacts on pouch function..
evertime, every day.
Jayne
I have a j pouch for 9 yrs now and after 10 years of uc, have never looked back. I have had a lot of kidney problems since the j pouch, and have started reasantly to do a lot of research on the subject and so came across this site. has anyone else had kidney stones or other kidney problems. I realsed that we are prone to severe dehydration and ou bodys have a hard time dealing with this, I have started juicing and try a 75% raw foods lifestyle, and am feeling much more energetic, as I sufferd from fatique. My bowels are well formed when juicing as compared to when I eat whole foods Has any one else tried this?
Luana
I have only been back to my surgeon once since the proceedurefor dilation. I have had no follow up in alomost 7 years. and i do not get referred. i often wonder if i should make an appointment just to get checked over so i can have peace of mind all is still well down there! I often feel fatigued and i will try juicing i think... i also do not at present take any supplements.. but really should consider this too i think... In addition to vit B .. does anyone suggest anything else??
Pouchitis goes away for a short time with Flagyl and even Cipro. once gone you have to use a good pro-biotic to take the place of the good bacteria that was lost with the antibiotics. i recently learned this from a top homeopath and am now on VSL3 and looking good. Unfortunetaly a lot of damage was done over the last few years , had to fight off abcesses , was hospitalized 4-5 times with minor surgeries to remove/drain the abcesses.
Now i have fistulas that are causing incontenance and looks like the sphincter/hole is getting smaller. surgeon said i have to get used to the idea of a ileostomy someday unless i can get used to a Medina Cathethar. Has anyone used this for J-Pouch?
I was just told that one of the reasons of the complication with our JPouches is that the stools are not being completely drained when we go to the washroom... stool stays in there and, in his words, 'festers' inside and promotes Immune Response (that is the basis of our problem)...he says other patients swear by it.. they saved they're pouch and did not have to get an ileostomy because of it.
Anybody helped with Medina Cathethar? i would appreciate any advice.
thanks.
Jo, i think you have to get checked out for Crohn's... if you get fistulas or abcesses...its probably crohn's. i'm on Humira and Imuran for that.
after 8 years of problems with my pouch, they realized it was crohn's and i should not have had a jpouch to begin with, though im glad compare to an ileostomy.
if anyone gives us a heads up on the Medina Cathethar i think you should try it too...it will help with the fistulas/abcesses.
Thanks Again!
Much love and light to all of you.
having read your entry, im sad that you are due to have a reversal of your pouch.. As i fear this will be irreversable for you? you dont mention how long you have had it?? if the tablets seem to have helped maybe you could try other things as a last ditch attempt before going for your surgery.
Stress definately without doubt causes more problems.. but for me it appears to be food in general, as when i dont eat very much my pouch is a breeze!...
Jayne
When I look your story you could be my brother.
Have my pouch for 15 years now.
Now I live “very” low carb, because my bloodsugar rise after so many years of to much Carbs.
I eat 50% raw and 50% cooked greens I start every day with a smoothie made of fruits and greens(with 2 bananas, kiwi and some berries ) . Vitamineral Green I also use it the smoothies. And all kind of greens which are cheap when I buy them (everything is BIO).
It took a few weeks before my body accepted the greens but it started after a few weeks. It had no choice, nothing else was going in. I also used enzymes to start the job (still using them).
So everything goes quiet good now. I also did juicing, but to much work for me, smoothie works okay for me.
I am missing “magnesium” in your program, I was sleeping very bad, because magnesium deficiency. And also take extra vitamin D around 4400 IU every day. Not much sun over here so we need the vitamin D extra.
I also make my own yoghurt with “Acidophilus”and soy milk.
Still searching for a better way to live.
Recently I run to 4 miles in 32 minutes without a prepare. So it’s going quiet good at the moment .
Nice site BTW, over here in the Netherlands we have a Pouch-forum.
Good luck Alex
When you have deficiency you will get problems, that is sure. Take every day yoghurt or GOOD BACTERIA TO PREVENT DISEASE in your Pouch.
When you run out of magnesium in your body, you will get stress and depressions. We need extra minerals they are very important for us pouch people.
Start in the morning. The whole day please!!
First get,
Solgar Advanced 40+ ACIDOPHILUS
NOW super Enzymes
You can try the next thing:
I miss a good base for your pouch, I don’t know if you have a blender.
Start your morning with making a smoothie
Put some water,lettuce, a few (straw)berries, 1/2 avocado, yoghurt, banana and three capsules Solgar Advanced 40+ Acidophilus in the blender.Blend about 1 minute on high speed(till everything has one colour).
Take one tablet Now super Enzymes after the smoothie. You can also use a part of cucumber in the smoothie. Don’t drink more than 1,5 cup of the smoothie. But chew…..chew the smoothie so it gets your own enzymes too.
Lunch: yoghurt with three capsules Solgar Advanced 40+ also some porridge or buckwheat and also three capsules Solgar after eaten this take a NOW super enzymes. “Don’t eat to much” and again chew……chew again not more than 1,5 cup.
Drink green tea a good brand and mineral water without bubbles during the day.
Diner same as in the morning. Again not more 1,5 cup.
No cheese and no tropical juice, avoid E621 and aspartame, use stevia as sweater.Keep the carbohydrates low, only porridge or buckwheat.
When peace is back in your body you will find your own way in the world of fresh smoothies.
Avoid E621 it is in lot of foods nowadays.
Try this a few days! Let me know how this is going.
j pouches are tempermental like haveing colitis at times without the bleeding ....pouchitis is mad always searching for the looo and night time you have to wear pads because of leaksmany other problems i decided to look ahead in my later years i dont want to wear nappies the bag is more dignafied dont you think .
Every silver lining's got a touch of grey,
I will get by I will Survive =)
Hi Cherie, could you tell me if you felt any restrictions with a jpouch, like always being aware of toilet location or night time leakage. How many times you go to the toilet? Thanks
The issue I had is the lack of information on the J-pouch regarding cancer patients. I stumbled onto this site after many searches on Improving BM after surgery etc. I knew it would be a long path for recovery but I must admit, I did'nt think it was this much. I live in Western Australia, 51 yrs old and very active and can see some lifestyle changes ahead.
It has been really good to read all of the blogs and help understand what I expect to go through. I'll keep in touch and spread the word to others.
I think this website is the most informative one for a few reasons:
- I've gone through the whole process myself
- I tried everything known at the time when I had UC
- I'm always looking for ideas/ways to improve the condition
- I'm not out to make money, this site is a public service because I genuinely want to help people. I pay all the web hosting costs out of pocket and it feels good to help others in need
I hope all of you are getting a lot out of the site and I appreciate all of your contributions. I really want to foster collaboration about UC because it will help all of us to be a community.
- Will
i have been realy turf for me in the night time when my wife dose not slip at all and , not taking the food in the day time . give me some good idea for me to apply on my wife , see is also very socking of all this heppen to hur , reply me to my mail adsak@ymail.com
Also I take probiotics(diary free)which is really important for the gut. I think everyone is different with what they can tolerate and keeping a daily diary is a good start, maybe make it your new years resolution!. Hope this helps, Happy New Year....it does get better!
Zina, I am happy that you are doing well and that the bag is working out for you. I would like to know how you manage. My experience was so bad - my ostomy site was not nice and flat, so it was very hard to fit the wafer and bag. As a result, it popped off fairly often making a huge mess and causing me much pain due to the acidic matter burning up my already raw skin. I had to change the appliance sometimes a few times a day. The supplies were very expensive and not entirely covered by insurance, but the pain was the worst part. The site flowed 24/7 - no down time at all. The odor was unmanageable. It was also impossible to hide the bag in my clothing. I was 36 yrs. old when I had the surgery, and I wanted to dress fashionably. Maybe there have been improvements in the appliances since that time.
Susan B - my friend keeps telling me there is a lid for every pot and I do hope to find my lid soon! I believe there are kind, loving men out there, and I know if someone cared about me, they would "put up with" my bathroom issues. But how do I meet someone in the first place when they want to take me to dinner or out for drinks? The minute you feed or water me (haha), I have to head to the restroom.
I love this site. It helps a lot to know I'm not alone and there are people all over the world dealing with the same issues. It would be even more helpful if there were local meet-up groups. I live in a suburb outside Philadelphia.
It has been four years since my take down (I turn 40 in just a couple of weeks) and although I have a lot of the same issues as most of the people on this site have described, I am truly happy that I had the surgery. I guess what I am saying is that after a while you won't think of yourself in the same manor.. you will realize that the way you live your life now, is well your "normal" life and you will adapt. At least this is my reality. Each day is a new adventure and although I have to watch what, when and how much I consume I make the best of every day. May God bless you with the patience to endure your life and a partner who will gladly share it with you!!
I also wish we can have some meetup group here in NYC. I especially would love to find a group of hikers, or any outdoorsy group, that I wouldn't have to feel embarrassed in front of, in case I get the sudden urgency to go. I wish I could get over my hangups, but I still have a hard time telling people I have to go to the bathroom!! I very often suffer silently until I get home.
My sister had 80% of her bowel removed about 13 years ago and when she made an appointment to see a doctor due to something not been right down there,they found that there was a polyp that had been missed and had gone cancerous,the polyp was right at the entrance of her anus and because the camera was not con-caved it was missed. She died 6 months later.Please people that who have only had 80% of there bowel removed make sure that you do have frequent check ups with your specialist.
I elected to have the J pouch surgery, 2 days after the laproscopic ileostomy surgery there was a leak in the join and the waste was going into my stomach.After the code red in hospital i spent a week in HDU. I spent the next 2 months trying to find a bag that would stick to my skin,the first time the nurses tried we went thru 36 complete bag changes in 24hrs my skin was really raw after that.
With the J pouch that i have now(4 months)this has been a real eye opener as no one has/could prepare you for what i call a journey to a new life.I'm glad that I found this site as i have gone thru just about everything from going to the toilet 20 to 30 times a day to the sorness down below, trying to find the right diet,and the likes...I'm glad that I'm not alone and there is J pouches out there that don't mind sharing there experiences.I've have just come back from a check up and found that i have pouchitis,hopefully the antibiotics should clear that up.
Benji: I agree with you 100% about the learning curve it i feel is constantly moving all the time,thanks again to all you people sharing your experiences, i hope that one day we all find/reach that plateau of health.
OK..so..I have read every single entry on here and I have learned a lot. I am urging him to focus on his diet. However, my big question is this...he is having terrible pain. It is inside his rectum, and it hurts when he sits down. He says it feels like he is constipated, but when he goes to the bathroom, it is loose. The Dr. told him that this was normal. He just had surgery and is going about 8-10 times a day and 4-5 times at night. .He also went through the terrible rash, and irritation at first. We expected this, as he had not used his rectum for over a year. I personally think that his rectum is just sore because he has not used it for so long. It was over a year that he lived with the ostomy bag. He is not getting sleep at night, he is in pain all the time and he says he gets dizzy when he gets up fast. HE does not have pain in his intestines, so I am not concerned about Chrohn's at this point. I also am hesitant to think it is pouchitis, bc the pain is only in his rectum area (internally) Anyone who may have had the same experience, or has any kind of advice would be great. Hopefully it is just going to take time and each day he will feel better. I really like his surgeon. He does not seem concerned, but I live with my husband and I see how much he is suffering on a daily basis. I also must add that he does over do it in my opinion. He is a realtor and he leaves the house and sometimes works a full day and this is just one month after surgery!! I think he needs complete rest for a few weeks. Do you all think he should go and have someone look up into his rectum and and see what is going on?? Or do you think it is just normal pain that will go away in time. Thanks to all!!
I am 49 and have never had any issues until yesterday. I self diagnosed a partial intestine blockage. I am not bloated but I am experiencing strong intestinal cramping. May be a passing thing.
I take VSL3 once in a awhile. Anyone experience cramping. I haven't changed my diet. It is amazing that I too eat what is listed on the good food list above. I have not had a soda since 1992.
I am hoping to walk out the intestinal cramping. Not so good right now. PS. Love your website.
@Kym, yea going to work 1 month after the surgery is way too soon. It takes a while to recover! If you overdo it off the bat you can end up back in the hospital and have to start over again. After I had my ileostomy surgery, I went to a diner and had a burger and immediately got an intestinal blockage the same day I got out of the hospital and had to turn around and drive right back! I would definitely get the rectum checked out too just to be safe but it's probably a normal part of the healing process, it takes months to heal from the surgery.
@Joan, wow no soda since 1992, was your last soda a Crystal Pepsi :) What usually works for me with a partial blockage is grape juice and just moving around. Sometimes taking a hot bath helps as well, the heat expands things in there. If you are taking opiates (percocet, oxycodone etc), they will make it worse as well.
This is a very good site, I am glad I found it.Thanks Hope to hear from someone on my issues.
I still have days of adhesional pain (a monthly period contributes to this mostly!) and I have days where I have peanut butter consistency stools, and other days pure water... on "high output" days I know to drink more.. and drink things with electrolytes.. the bottom line is, we will never be fully "normal" again.. we had a HORRIBLE disease that can take lives if not gotten under control. My scar begins approx. 2 inches from my breast bone and descends to 2 inches in my "fur"/pelvic area... and then there is the ileostomy scar.. but ya know what? I am ALIVE... I am gassy at times.. and every now & then I still leak at night (although very rare- thank God!) but to look at me, noone would ever know I was ever as sick as I was.. and I know all of you can relate to this... these past 5 years working with these patients has made me realize even more just how lucky I was/and still am... and when I tell a patient what we have in common-- they seem relieved.. and then to see them come out of surgery and indure the same pain that I (we) did humbles me over & over again... 4 years ago I had to start monthly B12 injections (the terminal ileum involvement inhibits absorption after 8-10 years) and yeah.. it's a pain to remember and do it... but once again.. I am Alive and thriving... I hope all of you are the same!
i've had my jpouch for 10 years now and turns out i have crohn's not UC. long story short: its been hell.. dealing with Crohn's in a pouch. abcesses, fistulas..name it. very bad until i came across AYURVEDA..Indian medicine. changed everything. please , please find a Ayurveda Doctor near you and see them. doesnt cost much and there is no magic involved. Ayurveda has been around for a few thousand years and it works super well. Bloating went away immediately, that was one of the worst parts including the night visits.
anyways, i've read all the stories, had written few months ago. love the site. thanks Will. good luck to all ;)
the fistulas are a very big tell tell sign.
excessive 'pouchitis' is another. there is no real/hard way of proving the diff. you have to figure it out with the symptoms.... but if your 'pouchitis' keeps coming back and you get fistulas... its not good. if you dont have these recurring symptoms , you're looking good..despite the bad surgery. :)
I do have bad days where I have re-occurences of pouchitis. Sometimes this will happen once in a couple of months or once a month or not for months at a time. I can (most often) tell when I have pouchitis because I have the symptoms, ie.abdominal cramping, urgent frequncies to the bathroom, and blood. When this happens I go on flagyl. I was daignosed a couple of years ago (not sure the exact name of it) of vitamin B12 deficiency. I get a B12 shot every month. I also take probiotics every day (acidophillus) to help with my immunity.
Last week, I just went to my yearly follow up appointment to see my surgeon (well now my new doctor b/c my surgeon recently retired) and he checked things out. He told me I have pouchitis, which this time around,I wasn't 100% sure that I could because I didn't feel the cramping like I normally get. He put me on cipro and flagyl for 10 days. He told be there is inflammation in my j-pouch and if this doesn't get better I will need biopsies done. He also said to not cancel out the possible chance that I may get Chron's disease...which is very disappointing to hear.
I asked my doctor what the secret is to what his patients do to be successfull while living with their J-Pouch. He told me everyone is different and reccomended me that a patient of his blogs online with those who have a J-Pouch (he couldn't remember what the website was) and to go online and to google "J-Pouch" and I could find a blog support group. So here I am!! :) (not sure if this is the one he's talking about but it's great!!) Reading a mojority of your guys' blogs have given me alot of insight to start writing down what I am eating so I can see what my body will accept and not accept so I won't have the frequent bowel movements. So, today I would like to put this to the test and take some of your advice and write down what I eat so I can figure out a diet that will fit me needs.
Thank you to all who shared your stories! I love the support! :)
Thank you Will for keeping up on this site for us. I don't mind scrolling down but if you think it's easier to make page breaks, we will go along with your choice.
HI, This site has been very informative. Thank you all. I just met with a surgeon Friday, also in Hartford, CT and will be having the 1st part of the operation for the j pouch in May. I've had UC since I was 23 yrs old. In 1991 I was diagnosed with colon/rectal cancer. No surgery was done, only chemo and radiation. I have been cancer free since. However, my last two colonoscopy procedures showed dysplasia, so surgery, I was told, is the next best step. Your site gives me some idea as to what to expect. Since I am still in the anticipation stage of what the surgery will be like, I was wondering if anyone could let me know what their experience was like. What were they asked to do in preparation for the surgery? What type of recovery they experienced? For example, how long before they were able to function in their home without help and how long before they returned to work. With the number of BMs per day, that has been mentioned, it seems almost impossible to return to some jobs, such as teaching high school, where going to the bathroom on short notice, so to speak, will be a big issue. That worries me very much. Any input would be very much appreciated. Thanks
Some foods that cause gas (this varies from person to person): milk, beans, soft cheese, garlic, broccoli, high fiber stuff...
Also swallowing air when you eat will cause gas
I had my surgeries two years ago. I also teach. I did not spend as long as some suffering with UC. After 18 months of not responding to any medical treatment other than high doses of prednisone, I chose suregery. While I still have issues with food, it is managable. I have noticed that as long as I am careful with what I eat, I do not have the sudden urge to go to the restroom and fear I won't make it. One thing this site has taught me is no two of us are alike. I was back at work 3 weeks after my final surgery. I wasn't moving fast but everyone was understanding. I have always found my students behaved the best when they knew I was recovering. I was fortunate enough to go home 4 days after the first surgery. It was at Christmas so my husband took a week off after I was released from the hospital. Once he went back to work I was on my own and it was fine. Sort of the same thing with the next two surgeries. I have always exercised and I think that helped with the recovery time. I also know from reading this site that I was not normal in the recovery time. It seems others have had a longer recovery. Coming off the high dosage of prednisone was the worst part for me.
Thank you
Suzie
Will, I plan on investing in detachable shower head- Thank you
I love spicy food - no problem there.
Sure, mushrooms and sweetcorn pops out in chunks (like we all saw in our external colostomy pouches) but that doesn't really cause me problems.
If I'm on the beer, I'll make sure I take four loperamide (acgtive content of brands like immodium) capsules to thicken things up and ward off night time issues.
And I have no trouble farting - my wife will sadly testify to that. :)
I guess it's all very personal what effects you experience.
My one problem is iron - I can't seem to absorb enough even with supplements so suffer form pernicious anaemia. Add to that the fact that I have to 'go' in the middle of the night and I'm always tired.
Meh - it's better than being dead due to a perforated colon... :)
I only had three surgeries. Due to the high dosage of prednisone I had been on my doctor would not do it in two. My doctor also felt it was because I exercise so much that my time in the hospital was quicker than expected. I was up the day after surgery walking the halls (several times a day). I also would sit in a chair and tried to not lay in the bed too much during the day. It hurt to get up and down, but I was able to show my doctor I would be just fine at home. Once I was home I made sure I got up and walked around every hour or so. I am sure attitude helped. I was not going to let this keep me from my husband and children. I was tired of hearing my children ask if I felt good enough to do something with them.
http://somvweb.som.umaryland.edu/absolutenm/templates/?a=1445&z=5
It says the compound 'zonulin' plays a role in causing gut permeability which leads to triggering autoimmune diseases (colitis).
I am sanjeev from India my first surgery done on 7th april 2011. I am having acute diarrhea from the day one. Having IMODIUM , CODINE Tab, VSL 3 thrice daily but no use. Pls advise how to control this loosing weight everyday.
Sanjeev Kandhari
sanjeev_kandhari@yahoo.com
I'd get off the Vsl#...its very powerfull stuff. wait a little while before using probiotics. 6 months minimum.
also, acute diarrhea is a off for this long...shouldnt be that bad. see your doctor.
This is an area that I struggle with as well. I have narrowed it down to my diet! I have all of the symptoms that you have described above when I eat spicy food, greasy, raw vegetables & fruit, and also nuts. I believe that there are common things for everyone, like spicy foods but the rest I would say if "trial an error" and he would need to determine what specific foods cause this response. I am no doctor either but I pay close attention to what my body is telling me. This is also a wonderful site and Will has great notes on the "good" & "bad" foods-check it out.... I have had my pouch for going on 5 years now and I still have issues from time to time, especially when I go out to eat or eat what someone else has prepared. I wish you well and hope that I may have been of some help. God Bless
Have you considered that his stomach might just be very acidic? That tends to happen when you get stomach ulcers and that extra acid goes all the way down through the GI tract. You may want to do some research on restoring ph balance to the GI tract, reducing stomach acidity and what foods are more alkaline: http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm of course you should cross this with what foods the jpouch can tolerate.
Good luck
I'm a firm believer that marijuana should be legalized nationally for medical use but sadly there are many political barriers to it.
He has avoided spicy food (used to love indian, but hasn't had it in years). doesn't eat greasy food. a few fries here and there so maybe he can't even had one. and he doesnt' eat veggies, fruits or nuts so those can't be the culprits. he doesn't eat much anymore. chicken maybe and some rice or potatoes and maybe some rick krispies or corn flakes and a banana or some yogurt. he has even recently tried staying away from bread thinking maybe it was a gluten intolerance and he also drinks lactose free milk in case he's lactose intolerant. it's quite troublesome, but hopefully he will find some relief soon.
Will-
Thanks for your suggestions. Stomach acidity considering he's been diagnozed with an ulcer now is probably what the issue is. You would think other than nexium there would be something that the hospital would suggest. he needs to see a GI doc i think since the internists and the colo-rectal surgeon do seem detached at this point. i had looked at acidid and alkaline food lists awhile ago when he was first experiencing the acid problem. the lists surprised me because i found some things on each that i thought would be on the other. i will definitely do some more digging on this. he's trying the questran to see if that will help with the bile acid in his system. tastes gross he says, but sometimes you have no choice. i think he should try some fiber (metamucil, etc) to see if that would help also. again, tastes gross, but there has to be something that is going to do the trick and help him gain some relief and normality. thanks for your insight and help. will let you know what happens.
I am just looking at the link you posted for the acid/alkalilne food list. as i said i guess he will need to see a GI dr. who may be able to help him and check his PH level, but I noticed on the alkaline list that there is no animal protein, meaning not meat or fish. crazy! he's not a big meat eater, but does like turkey or chicken and an occasional sausage or hamburger. i am guessing that these things could be throwing off his system and affecting his PH balance in a big way. but geez. what does one do to maintain their weight and get some protein...not too many proteins on the alkaline list other than nuts which j-pouchers can't tolerate or whey protein powder. he used to use that when he exercised so i will tell him to bulk up on that and see if it helps. i will review this list more again and show it to him and see what happens. thanks. :)
One of the key things which helped her through all of this was her attitude towards it. She told herself that the bag was her friend (even giving it a name) and kept reminding herself that without this, she wouldn't be here today. She has a very warm, loving and bubbly personality which helped her through the initial hardship of getting used to an external bag. Approximately a year later she had more surgery to create a jpouch, and about 9 months later had the reversal operation to remove the external bag. Thankfully throughout all of this she has been extremely lucky and healthy with little side effects or problems. Today you would never know she had been so ill, and is the picture of health, and like many others, knows what her system can tolerate and what she has to avoid. She has trained herself to be able to sleep most nights without having to get up to the loo, and the same applies during the day when she knows she is going to be busy. She is on no medication at all, so life is very good. She will be getting married soon, and she would dearly love to have children so my question is, has anyone with a j pouch given birth? Is it possible? What problems are known about this? After being been so healthy and trouble free, I worry that this position will change. The surgeon has said that the hardest bit will be conceiving after major abdominal surgery, but once pregnant, there is no reason for her not to go to full term. While we believe this, I have have looked on many forums etc but not heard of anyone who has had a child after this surgery.
“Some studies suggest that fertility may be decreased after an ileoanal pouch procedure, but this by no means suggests that women who have undergone this procedure can’t have children. Indeed, many woman of child-bearing age have spontaneously conceived and given birth successfully after this procedure. It is possible that pelvic scarring may be the cause of this decreased fertility, and therefore the current laparoscopic techniques used at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital are attractive in that they reduce the amount of internal scarring.” ~ New York Presbyterian Hospital
“On the baby front, I did need to do IVF to get pregnant, but it worked first try. The effect on my ileo was non-existant, except that I normally use convex wafers and as my belly grew I switched to flat ones. Back to convex after delivery. I did have a major bowel obstruction that lasted 5-6 weeks in my fifth month. I was on a liquid diet and in the hospital about 15 days. However, they were able to catheterize the ileo and hold the obstruction open to get me through. Dr Peter Mowschenson (surgeon) at the Beth Israel in Boston took care of me during my pregnancy (Lahey doesn’t do obstetrics so Dr Roberts couldn’t care for me). Before and after that a very normal pregnancy. I delivered by c-section after a consult with my high risk OB. He was willing to let me try a natural delivery but told me that with a planned c-section, he could plan and take precautions to work around and protect my GI system. IF I tried a natural delivery and needed an emergency c-section, he wouldn’t have time to do that. Since my Mom needed 3 c-sections without surgical issues, I decided to go with the planned c-section. I delivered a 7lb 10oz baby at 37 1/2 weeks. He was delivered early intentionally so that I wouldn’t go into labor. He was perfectly healthy and still is.” ~ The J-Pouch Group
Debbie-I sure hope that I don't have to live the rest of my life like this. I think that I may have taken for granted how "good" I have had it for the last 4 years! I will let you know what the doctor finds out/says. Thanks for your thoughts.
..... couple of questions...
Are there any UC research projects we could all help with?
Are there any veggie/vegan pouchies out there that can offer any advice?
oh and hey will - what about a dating page for us sad singleton pouchies!!?? ;)
i read a useful tip earlier, good if you have to pay for your VSL#3
- you can use the powder sachets to make yoghurt, which makes it go much further. Luckily i don't have to pay for mine, i looked it up and couldn't believe how expensive that stuff is!
My first operation went very well. Re-connection to the pouch was over a year later due to problems at the Hospital. I had a fantastic first six years then during the winter of 2009 I found I was visiting the toilet much more. feeling slightly bloated, as time moved on by the spring of 2010 it was obvious there were real problems mainly with the urge function I could feel the motion moving into the pouch then get a massive urge to get rid of it, only to find that I had past a very small amount. this problem increased to about twelve times a day. Then shortly after eating I could feel the gut peristolsis, having to go to the toilet maybe four times in the hour after eating.
I was diagnosed with pochitis and given Cipro...Within three days much better 10 days and Antibiotic diarrhoea so had to stop the tablets. I have never passed Blood during pouchitis and feel it is more to do with my immune system attacking the friendly bacteria living in the pouch creating inflamation this makes the pouch puffy thus reducing it's size, so pouch is inflamed and sensitive with reduced capacity. this is what caused my collitis. I am concidering asking if I can try Sulfasalazine to more gently reduce the bacterial count. some thing has to happen as presently I am in a worse place than ever I had with my colitis,
Kind Regards...Graham
Nice to here from you, yes the sore bottom can be SO bad. I have found that a small amount of ..do not laugh..Pile ointment, is excellent very soothing it is mainly Witch hazel so safe.
Yes they did remove the rectal tissue as the little tumor was on the sigmoid that's the bend prior to the rectum.
I really do not feel that the Pouch route after having the large intestine removed is not the Gold standard we are led to believe.
I must say that if the surgion had not made such a good job connecting to the Anus I would be in big trouble. I actually never leak but the discomfort and pain associated with gripping those muscles for long periods when away from home cannot be described,
I do not understand why we are given Ciproflaxin in the first place. the only indication I have is that my pouch is inflamed, No high temperature, No Puss, No blood, I have a feeling that if I was given a short course of Prednisone I would get the same result as taking the Cipro.... remove the bacteria slow the immune system stop inflamation. slow the immune system with pred and the same outcome.
I do have an over responsive immune system.that is what coused the Co;itis.
I have tried Pro biotics acidophalus, biphidus etc, I get worse!!
Will be seeing my Surgeon soon and will put my thoughts to him. anything new I will post here
Yes I agree nothing like a little abstract thought, the problem is the experts rely on learned information they tend not to go outside normal knowledge. After working for BP for most of my life I am quite addept at identifying cause and effect scenarios. My surgeon has refused to allow me to even try Mesalazine instead of Ciproflaxin, her reason 'I do not have Colitis'???? obviously not a lateral thinker.In effect I am being told that mesalazine will be harmful if used to treat pouchitis, Has anybody tried it?
Graham
Appart from my Pouchitis causing me to visit the toilet very often when it is not active I find that about seven times a day is normal depending on the rule that what goes in must come out, so large meals equals more output. I have tried missing lunch, I take 6 to 9 Lomatil tablets a day(DIPHENOXYLATE 2.5mg) two every six hours increasing and decreasing the time interval as neaded also a good back up with the Lomotil If I am travelling or away from home I take a 30mg dihydrocode tablet at the same time as the Lomotil.
I have managed seven hours between visits using this method of control. Note, I would not advise taking both tablets for extended periods as there are side effects if they are taken for more than a couple of days.
Graham.
Graham
I feel that 4/5 times a day is very good but possibly just 2 lomotil tablets 3 three times a day would help with that horrible period where one has to really fight the peristolsis usually just after eating. maybe it would also help to sleep through.
You are I think quite lucky in maybe having a pouch with good capacity
Graham
I tried reducing my food intake only to find my output was became acidic this inflamed the pouch and my bottom. it is all a balancing act. I feel that having excellent muscle tone in the pelvic floor it most important and can help avoid embarrassing problems.
Graham
the 4 people i've met who've had j-pouch surgery have all been veggies before the op. i've been veggie for 20 years, my illness was very sudden and severe - between onset and total colectomy was about 6 weeks (no previous symptoms) is it a coincidence do you think? or is it possible to eat TOO MUCH fibre? or perhaps certain veggie products are an irritant? in the uk there is a popular veggie product range called "Quorn" which i've found out is banned in some couuntries!! i'm going to investigate that one further.
There is a possibility it is pouchitis. the frequent urge to go is caused by the pouch tissue swelling when inflamed, it reduces the capacity of the Pouch. It can be a visious circle the more you go to the toilet the less residence time your food has so the output is more acidic it is so a sore bottom is quite likely.
if the pouch is inflamed, well its like putting vinager on a cut....ouch.
Are you taking drugs to slow down your gut?
As has been commented previously. You have to teach the pouch who is boss.
It will possibly take a year for things to finally settle down
If the Blood you are passing is fresh bright and runny it needs investigating, any sign of puss and it is urgent.
Hope you feel better soon....Graham
typical signs are, fategue, Cramping or muscle spasm, feeling kind of floaty and light headed, possibly irregular heartbeat.
Graham
greg
1) hard alcohols straight up (vodka on the rocks, rum, etc)
2) wine
3) mixed drinks without soda in them (vodka cranberry)
5) mixed drinks with soda in them (rum & coke)
4) beer - avoid beer because it is not only alcohol but also very acidic and carbonated; it took me several years to be able to drink beer to any extent
Your body will get better at tolerating alcohol over time, it may take a few years.
Good luck and happy birthday,
- Will
It is important that you eat the opposite of what is seen as a healthy diet with lots of fibre.
You are looking to slow down the transit of your food through what is left of your intestines. The longer your food intake spends inside you the better. Weetbix is course wholegrain, great for moving stuff along your large intestine, if you have one.
I have found cornflakes to be gentler. also for breakfast peanut butter or Jam on white bread toast along with any fruit that is not too acidic. Fruit peel is a good bulking agent so chopped pear or ripe apple with most other fruit mixed in with the cornflakes is good.
Note that All your fruit must be washed to avoid the potential for pochitis.
Information for anyone interested. I have been mon itoring my pouch since my last bout of pochitis. All was fine until I had a large helping of Parmazan cheese with an italian meal, within 3 days the pochitis was back, Cipro would not budge the problem. I then had a week of Metronidazole, this worked well and all has been fine, I had noticed previously that soft type cheese and smelly cheeses coused problems. I would advise sticking with Chedder type cheese.
On the Sore Bottom question, in our condition we tend to be constantly cleaning or washing that area. due to us passing partially digested food the potential for thrush type yeast infections is real clean warm water is more advisable unless there is a real need to clean up after a slight accident. too much washing removes the friendly bacteria that hold thrush at bay. I always have Dactakort
(miconazole)cream available just in case, it is so good that two applications will stop thrush dead, it will also prove if is thrush.
Kind Regards....Graham.
Not really sure Nathan how the panadeine forte works. I'm guessing it's anti spasmodic as it's most common side effect in mormally plumbed people is constipation. It is only available thru prescription( in Aus) so talk to your Doc.
As for brekkie I never start the day without Porridge (rolled Oats).It's very calming on the tummy. I have been known to have a bowl anytime my stomach is feeling off.
Any help/suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. Please feel free to e-mail me Susanhinton@btinternet.com
Thanks Sue - Canvey Island UK.
every day for pouchitis for about 8 years. If I try to go w/o or get lazy about taking it my symptoms come back quickly. I do not regret having the j pouch done, it has been hard at times. I can tell you where all the bathrooms are. Knock on wood have not had a day time accident but I do have leaks at night or flat out accidents. I will try some of the things I have read about here. I do drink a lot in the evening bc I get so thirsty. Will cut down on that. My other problem is a terrific weight gain and i really don't eat that much.
Any body else have weight gain?
drs suggest surgery for me but i m very confused about it that what is best for me surgery or not
my disease is moderate
i'm sooooooooo glad, to found this site. I'm not alone.
I'm Mongolian. I'm 31 years old. When i was 20 i was diagnosed with UC. Due to UC, i had my j-pouch surgery 2009.
but i have had problem after my surgery since now. I go to toilet about 30-40times a day. and itching, and burning. anyone help me. it is so nerves. I can't sleep at night. but i drink loperamed 8mg a day. but it was not good for me so many gas. sorry my english is not good i can't write anymore.
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More. Potassium helps regulate fluid in the bowel. Dow two weeks I have been drinking V-8 in the morning and taking a generic potassium pill at dinner and all my symptoms went away and have cut way down on bathroom trips. I was really sick with heart palpations, shortness of breath and high bp I can't believe it took do long to figure this out but I am a new person .
Ps the v-8 has the most natural potassium I could find way more than sports drinks with few calories and very healthy, has not hurt my system.
Also UC is in the autoimmune area and I understand that it's common to have thyroid problems and various other organ/health related problems purely because of the autoimmune deficiency.
Try a potassium pill if the juice bothers you. I for myself find getting vitamins and minerals work better if I get them as natural ad possible.
Ps the potassium has cut way down on my bathroom trips in general and usually once at night
I can't stay hydrated no matter what I do. This is hell. It's worse than UC minus the Prednisone.
Anyone have similar bleeding issues?
But eventually I healed up and went back to work. Now after 3-years with a j-pouch, I have been diagnosed with gout-like symptoms. (Also getting ganglions in the joints of my right hand I think due to the crystals collecting in the joints from the high uric acid associated with gout.) Looked on the Internet for a correlation between j-pouches and gout but can't find a connection. Urologist stressed the importance of drinking 8 - 10 glasses of water a day to keep hydrated as dehydration can lead to high uric acid, hence the gout. Feel caught in the middle between a gout diet and a j-pouch diet. With gout you avoid red meat and fish and eat veggies, beans, low fat dairy, and salad -- all things that aggravate my pouch. I use the bathroom at least 10 times a day as it is and plan my travel around the ability to get to a bathroom. Even a trip to the mall can be problematic. I have given up flying because of air line delays and when traveling on road trips eat very little. I seem to live on carbohydrates and sweets because the pouch seems to accept them -- but again these are bad for gout. Just writing this as a heads up for others as I believe the gout came about because of my limited diet due to the j-pouch and to the loss of fluids "out the back door." There has to be a balance in there somewhere and I just need to find it.
For those of you with irritated skin, Calmoseptine ointment is a great help and you can alternate with Vaseline as well.
And for all the suffering - physical and emotional - this experience has caused me over the last 5 years (2 with an ileostomy bag before the pouch), I am still alive and made the choices necessary to still be here with family and my grandchildren. Life with all these "adjustments" is still better than the alternative. You young people remember that.
I live in Ont. Ca and what works for me, when my bum starts to burn I use "critic aid" cream, *important to keep bum clean* I also take 1 tsp of metamucil in yogurt/apple sauce (per day), surgeon recommended this, he said it is more effective with the natural fibre in it. I am slowly introducing new foods to my diet, though nervous of some raw veggies. Thank you for this site. Dealing with this for a long time, nice to read what works for others. My son is 8yrs and this disease has not skipped a generation yet in my family....it only gets more aggressive.
I have had an s pouch for over 30 years now,its like a J pouch but uses 3 loops of ileum instead of 2 but the idea is the same,had it done for U/C.
I still keep a food diary as to what I can eat,to stop butt burn and it seems to work and have a blood test done every couple of years to see If i am deficient in any vitamins etc,may need b12 in the future.
I try and live a very active life and have found that the less you worry about how your pouch is working the better it seems to be.
Just make sure you drink plenty of water.
best Regards from Australia.
My husband was diagnosed with UC in 2004, one month before we were married. In July of 2005 he underwent J-Pouch surgery without having to receive an ileostomy. We were in the hospital for about 4-5 days before going home. It has been 6 years since his surgery and I must say, physically and emotionally he is better everyday. We continue to think of what we can do to make his life a little easier (we should own stock in Gatorade Propel), knowing where the bathrooms are in every public place we go, trying to eat better, etc. But, as hard as it is to imagine, exercise has seemed to be what has made the largest difference. He works in a high stress industry (accounting) and last year, began running again. This past October he ran the Chicago marathon and completed another marathon a month later. I feel as though it has increased his confidence and he says it helps him to have more control over his muscles. We know this will be a disease we face for the rest of our lives, but I think sharing what works is so important.
Oh yes, one other trick I wanted to share was to use an inflatable donut cushion when driving long distances or when your bottom is irritated. You can purchase these at your local drug store in the medical supply section. It is simply a circle with the middle cut out. It reduces the amount of pressure you are placing on your bottom. My husband has brought it to church on occasion. The Crohn's and Colitis Foundation is another wonderful resource. I pray for you all everyday.
Scott: What you have describe there is what i am having right now i have gone from 75kg to 60kg i stayed at 55kg when i was on my last opperation then dramtically i am losing weight i am now 51kg any further and i might have to eat up in hospital again to gain fat but atm i am just adjusting my diet to include more things that have a high calorie content and High Energy i find that sustagon is a good replacement for a full size meal with all the benefets of so many vegies and stuff but nothing beat good old Meal time :P Email me 0if you guys need help and never let it get you down its hard for me to say because i have periods where i am just down right depressed but i do have my good days so i hope i helped abit.
Jason My gastro doctor recommended PB8 and VSL #3 so thats what I been taking I take the PB8 to conserve the VSL #3 due to the cost of the VSL #3 crazy prices and where I live and my insurance will not cover it. I find I also have to stay clear of the spicy food as well as the salads also just like you lettuce kills me. Needless to say I eat a lot of chicken and rice and potato's. Keep the faith all life is great just a few bumps along the way.
I have had a jpouch for 3 years. I went from no symptoms to needing surgery in 18 months. Looking back I suffered with UC since high school, but was 38 before is hit me hard. I hated the ileostomy! It would get "gas" inside and I looked like an alien was about to burst from my side. I have always been thin and wear form fitting clothes. Not so with the ileostomy. It took a few months after my jpouch but I was back into my normal clothes. I watch what I eat and do not find myself running to the bathroom during the day. I am able to exercise. People have no idea of the health issues I have unless I tell them. There are times when I eat things I should avoid, and I pay for it. That is my fault, not the pouches. One thing this site has taught me is that everyone is different with this. Don't let others scary stories effect you. Also, do not hide from your friends. I know it is embarrassing. Real friends will be there with you through the whole experience. I sent a few of my close friends to this site so they could read about experiences people have had. It helped them get an understanding. Good luck and prayers that all goes well.
I have had my j-pouch for 3 years, and am in the middle of my first pouchitis.
I am on some antibiotics, but I am not too sure if they are working.
Here are some things I am curious about the most,
I have found the same thing about the chronic coughing, and there is constantly yellow mucus coming up...was/is this experienced by others, and further more It dissappeared for the year i was in vancouver, and returned as soon as i was back in ontario?
I am also worried my pouchitis could be because i recently moved in with a dog that sheds a fair bit, and am wondering if this could cause troubles?
and does marijuana help with a j-pouch?
because again since returning from vancouver i haven't smoked pot at all and my bowel movements, consistency, and even the foods I could ingest previously really do a number?
I also keep track of the amount of times i have farted, and am incredibly proud whenever i have a good one without blasting the back of my underwear.
anyways thanks to everyone, for all the great insights.
- Randall
This is a wonderful website. Usually people go to a website when they are having problems. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there doing very well, so haven't come to this site. There's also a lot of people willing to help. I've gotten some great tips thanks to this site. Good luck to all!
Has anybody experienced this?
Also, does anybody have issues with drinking alcohol?
Does anyone do this? Thanks!